Comic Book Friends

1964 - 1969

As long as I can remember I’ve been interested in comic books. I was attracted to the eye catching covers with monsters and dinosaurs even before I could read the stories. I’m relying now on a fuzzy 55 year old memory but as a kid in Elizabethtown, Kentucky, I think the first comic book I ever saw was Journey Into Mystery#56 from 1960. There is a Jack Kirby story in that book “I Planted The Seeds Of Doom” that shows an astronaut on an alien planet fleeing from a big monster on the splash page. My 6 year old brain was amazed at the exciting imagery on that page and I’m sure that experience helped form the template that I’ve been programmed to follow all these years. 

My family moved to Savannah, Georgia in 1961 and I continued dabbling in comic books form time to time. New issues could be bought at the 7-11 store owned by Mr. Woo and Fordham’s Supermarket both at the nearby Montgomery Crossroads that intersected my street of Edgewater Road. But, it was really difficult to find back issues. Why? There were no comic book speciality stores in those days. I wasn’t aware of any used bookstores in downtown Savannah that carried old comic books. There certainly weren’t any comic book conventions for fans to gather at in a sleepy little backwater town like Savannah. There were rumors of such events but they only supposedly happened in impossibly far away exotic places like New York City. There were no ads in the new comic books by mail order dealers like Robert Bell and Howard Rogofsky until about 1965. 

So if you wanted to find back issues in those nearly hopeless circumstances, what could you do? I quickly developed the habit of asking any new friends I made in the neighborhood or at school if they had any any comic books. Most people I met didn’t collect comic books but sometimes I got lucky and was able to pick up a few back issues here and there. I’ve listed below some of the very few old friends from the antediluvian days of the 1960s who were able to help me in my endless quest to find old comic books. Would you believe I’ve still got some of their books?

 
Strange Adventures #170, 1964 from my comic book friends
Before becoming a confirmed Marvel fan, I bought this DC comic due to its eye-catching cover. Roy liked the cover also.
The X-Men #3, 1963 from my comic book friends
The first X-Men comic I got was from Roy Davis for 5 cents in 1964. I’m sure Roy spent his new nickel right away. I’ve still got the comic book.

                                                              Roy Davis 

Of my friends at White Bluff Elementary school Roy Davis was one of the few who said he had some comics. Roy didn’t live in my semi-rural neighborhood. He lived about a mile away across the woods in a more upscale suburban neighborhood named Paradise Park. So one day circa 1964 my trusty red Schwinn bicycle carried me through those dark woods to Roy’s house. He had a small stack of well used comics. The only one I remember now and was glad to get then was a white cover book with some colorful costumed heroes fighting a big fat guy named the Blob. I’m sure X-Men #3 was was the first X-Men comic book I ever laid eyes on. I was always a cash and carry man, not a trader, so I probably paid Roy a nickel for the book. Later Roy visited my house and I showed him a DC science fiction book I had bought new because I liked the striking cover. Nowadays the comic price guides call them Infinity Covers. It was Strange Adventures #170 from 1964 and Roy agreed with me that the cover was very impressive.

                                                                             Billy Barrett

 In the mid 1960s Billy Barrett was one of my best friends and lived close by in my neighborhood. About 1964 or 1965 I learned he had a fairly large collection of DC super hero comics. Naturally, I wanted to get them. He said he would trade them all for an interesting toy he could play with and wanted to know what I had to trade. I had lots of cool toys in those days but didn’t want to part with any of them. The solution was to take one of my younger brother David’s toys instead. It was a large green plastic Tyrannosaurus Rex dinosaur named King Zor that David had received a few Christmases back. I had received that same year a big blue robot named Robot Commando but there was no way I was going to part with that. I let David read the comic books I got from Billy so I figured that was fair.

My comic book friends Billy Barrett & Lewis Forro circa 1966
Two young comic collectors with their Beatles haircuts having their picture made in the self-photo booth at K-Mart near Montgomery Crossroads & White Bluff Road. Billy sold his DC collection to Lewis and went on to live a normal life. Lewis continued on with his life long obsession of collecting comic books.

When I got to Billy’s house and thumbed through the DC comics I was pleased with with the 60 or so comics he had. They dated back to the early 1960s and I had never seen any of them before. I enjoyed reading the Superman stories with the bottle city of Kandor, the retarded albino Bizarro Supermans and the different colors of kryptonite that affected Superman in a different way depending on the color. I remember wondering that since Krypton was just one planet thousands of light years from Earth when it exploded, how did so much of it find its way across the gulfs of outer space to land on Earth? 

Even though I enjoyed the stories and wasn’t a confirmed Marvel collector until later in 1965 and still open to persuasion, for whatever reasons these comics didn’t drive me to start collecting new DC comics. The only DC title I ever seriously collected was The Metal Men and I don’t remember how I got hooked on them. I don’t recall Billy having any of those. None of these DC comics I got from Billy survived the 1960s. I don’t remember what I did with them. Maybe Mom, like many mothers in those days, threw them out when she figured I was tired of them.

Today, I still have a few vague fragmentary memories from some of these stories. So, in recent years when DC started doing reprints in their hardcover Archive lines of World’s Finest and The Man Of Tomorrow which had the Action and Superman titles, I started buying them to see if I could locate and rekindle some old memories. No luck. DC cancelled those Archive books before I came across any stories I remembered. I was especially curious about 2 stories I can remember. In one story, Superman and Batman had a contest to prove who was the better detective. Superman was so obsessed with winning that he started neglecting more important duties that were way beyond what Batman could do. So, to serve the greater good, Batman deliberately allowed Superman to win without letting Superman know Batman had taken a dive. In another story Superman and Batman were rounding up some bank robbers. A bullet bounced off Superman’s chest and seriously wounded Batman. Batman developed an inferiority complex which led him to give up being Batman, so Superman had to figure a way to restore Batman’s confidence. I don’t remember how Supes did it. If anybody knows which 2 issues these stories appeared in, please let me know.

                                                                        Danny Lincoln

Danny Lincoln along with Billy Barrett was my best friend in the early 1960s. He lived right across the street in the biggest house in the neighborhood and his family was well off enough to be one of the first families in the neighborhood to afford a color television set. He also had a large pit in his backyard covered by a trampoline which attracted kids from all over the neighborhood. His dad owned a swimming pool in Savannah and a motor boat and Danny took me swimming and boating with him a few times. Yes, Danny was a great guy even if he didn’t collect comic books. However, one day in late 1965 he did turn up with a copy of The Avengers #21 or #22, I think it was. I wasn’t a confirmed Avengers collector yet (although I did have a well read copy of #14) so I wasn’t in a panic to get it. Still, it was a Marvel comic so I asked Danny if we could work something out. We probably would have but cruel fate intervened. Danny’s class at White Bluff had a time capsule project where each student brought in an artifact of mid 20th Century culture from their home to be buried in the capsule on the White Bluff school grounds for a century. The event was even covered on the local TV news. You guessed it. Danny figured the interests of science outweighed his loyalty to me so he donated his Avengers comic book. The capsule isn’t scheduled to be opened until A.D. 2066 so I eventually had to settle for another copy of that book.

                                                                   The Bartlett Boys

After plundering the available pool of friends at White Bluff Elementary School for 6 years for their comic books, I moved on to Bartlett Junior High School 1967 – 1969 on Edgewater Road to continue the search. My best friends at Bartlett, none of whom lived in my neighborhood, were Bill Carter and Jeff Lindsay (both alumni from White Bluff) and Jim McKenzie, Billy Eitel and David Miller. Jeff Lindsay and Jim McKenzie had no interest in comics. Jeff did have a stash of 1960s Playboy magazines hidden in the woods near his house that he had salvaged out of the trash dumpsters behind K-Mart, so he was useful to have around anyway despite his not being a comic collector. 

David Miller, like Roy Davis and Bill Carter lived in Paradise Park and so was within easy bicycle range. David had a nice Fantastic Four collection but he was devoted to it (he liked Crystal the Inhuman a lot) and had no interest in selling. When I pressed the point he told me I already had enough comic books. He eventually boxed up his comics and put them in storage and that’s the last I saw of them. I re-established contact with David 33 years later through an internet high school reunion website and asked him about his Fantastic Four comics. He said he had sold them years ago. I guess he sold them to someone he figured didn’t have enough comics already. 

Under questioning, Bill Carter admitted he thought he had an Incredible Hulk comic. It sounded like #1 from 1962 to me by his description. I badgered him into searching for it in his attic. He reported back and said he couldn’t find it and he wasn’t going to try again since it was to hot in his attic to spend much time up there. Bill was still a great guy anyway. We took judo classes together at the YMCA and spent lots of time comparing notes on our favorite science fiction writers. He preferred Arthur C. Clarke and I was a Ray Bradbury man.

Amazing Spider-Man #1, 1963 & Strange Tales #88, 1961
David Davenport sold me both of these for $6.00 in 1968 at Bartlett Junior High. They were the best $6.00 investment I ever made.

With David Davenport I had some luck. I remember that like me, David liked reading Edgar Rice Burroughs novels. He especially liked Tarzan and I remember him having some of those 1960s Ballantine Books Tarzan paperbacks. Naturally the subject of comic books came up and David assured me that he used to have a large collection of old Marvel comics but had since disposed of it. I remember him bragging about his former copy of Fantastic Four Annual#1 that was so nice it looked like “it had been pressed between glass.” I did make a trip to his house and found 1 mangled issue of Strange Tales with the Thing and the Torch. I don’t remember which one and I got rid of it somewhere along the line since it was to beat up to keep in my collection. Later however, David came through me for me. Apparently he still had some contacts with comic collectors he had known when he still had his collection. He showed up at school with 2 comics, The Amazing Spider-Man #1 in solid Very Good condition and Strange Tales #88 in rougher shape. I paid David his asking price of $6.00 for both of them without making a fuss. I knew a good deal when I saw it. In 1968 Spider-Man #1 was about $12.00 on any mail order dealer’s price list. When I read the Strange Tales #88 book I remembered having read it years before at my grandmothers house in Birmingham, Alabama. That stoked some pleasant memories and I still consider Strange Tales #88 to be one of my favorite pre-Marvel monster books. I still have both those books today.

I finally hit some real paydirt when I met Billy Eitel. I had seen Billy around school but didn’t know him. But he got wind of me being a comic book collector and one day approached me in the Bartlett library and asked me if I collected comics. He was pleased to hear about some of the Marvel comics I was able to rattle off and we quickly became friends. I never went to his house but he visited me at least once. I remember he was thrilled to see my copy of Fantastic Four #19 which he had never seen before. I don’t think we exchanged any books as we both wanted to keep what we had. 

After graduating from Bartlett after the 9th grade Billy and I both started at H.V. Jenkins High School. One day in 1970 while sitting in class Billy said he wanted to sell his comics collection to me. He only wanted $40.00 for everything. I remember thinking to myself, “I’m robbing this guy blind.”

Billy Eitel's Marvel comic book collection
Billy sold me all his Marvel comics for $40.00 circa 1970. I ran this ad in The Rocket’s Blast Comic-Collector #85, 1971 but no one wanted to pay my high prices.
Tales Of Suspense #16, 1961
I never met anybody who lived in Savannah that had a nice condition pre-Marvel comic like this. I got this from an out-of-town flea market dealer set up at Oglethorpe Mall in the early 1970s. The same dealer bought the Marvel collection I bought from Billy Eitel.

 I may have added some of Billy’s books to my collection, I don’t remember. I did want to sell most of Billy’s books since most of them were duplicates of mine in no better condition and in those days I didn’t see any reason to have more than 1 copy of a book. I gave all the Marvel Western comics like Rawhide Kid and Kid Colt Outlaw to my cousins who were visiting from Birmingham. I think I sold The Incredible Hulk #6 and a few other rare books to dealers I saw in the leading comic book advertising fanzine of that time, The Rocket’s Blast Comic-Collector aka RB&CC. A little later I ran an ad in RB&CC #85 in 1971 to sell the rest of the collection. I was greedy and priced the books to high so none of them sold. So, I just put them away in storage. 

Then sometime later I was walking through Savannah’s only big mall which had opened in 1969, Oglethorpe Mall on Abercorn Expressway. There was a collectibles show going on with out of town dealers set up inside the mall. One of them had comic books for sale and I think had a sign up asking to buy old comic books. On impulse I decided this was a good way to unload the rest of Billy’s collection. I went home and got most of the books and came back to the mall and sold them for 10 cents each I think. I was questioning the low price and the dealer explained to me there was a lot of overhead in his business. He had to pay for the space he had at the mall and burn gasoline to lug his merchandise around the country. He did have 2 relatively high grade pre-Marvel monster books to my surprise which I bought. The only one I remember is Tales Of Suspense #16. The price was $15.00 per book. I think he gave me a small discount to offset the low price he was paying for my comics. 

So, all I had left now of Billy’s collection was his Amazing Spider-Man run which I at least had the sense to hold back and not sell for a dime each like the others. Sometime about 1972 after I had started at Armstrong State College I paid the college library to put the Spider-Man comics into 2 bound leather volumes. I think it costs $20.00 per volume. I still have those volumes today. They have served me as well as reading copies and to remind me of those innocent, happy days when you could still buy 1960s Marvel comics for about a dime each.

 

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Billy Barrett
Billy Barrett
1 year ago

Nice write up Lewis, those days were definitely a more pleasant time before GROWING UP. Nice friends with vivid imaginations and (some) resources to act on ideas we came up with. I enjoyed the comic book days and at the time thought I would be collecting well into the future but something changed, Puberty maybe? I started listening (closer) to music than I had before, and REALLY enjoyed it and met a lot of different people associated with music. We all knew Lyndy Brannen and he almost had me convinced to get into radio, (can’t recall now why I didn’t) Anyway I still listened and started collecting records. The stereo dealers would always ask “Where’s your money invested”? Not in your equipment but in your RECORDS they would say. Soooo I took that to heart and went full speed at collecting and listening. I call myself a “Professional Listener”. I was doing alright thru the years but the collection was growing and getting scattered where I could store them around the house. Keep in mind this was well before Yard Sales or Garage or Estate Sales. When I started hitting those sales, collecting went thru the roof. Until we moved to where we are now, records were everywhere but as you have seen they are all together now. I hope you still get pleasure from your passion for comics as I do for music.

Lewis Forro
Lewis Forro
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy Barrett

Billy – thanks for writing. I always considered reading (not just comic books) to be the most sublime pleasure in life closely followed by watching old movies and TV shows. I liked music but it was never more than a sideline. I still dabble in buying motion picture and TV soundtrack record albums if the outer cardboard jackets are in nice shape.
Comic book reading and collecting has given much pleasure for over half a century now. Nothing, not puberty, growing up, an Air Force career or anything else ever stopped me from buying as many old Marvel comics as I could get my hands on. The only thing that stopped me is today’s high prices. I only like high grade comics and those type of old comics today are out of the price range of ordinary people. But I still buy hardcover reprint books of Marvel, EC and a few others comics to read the stories at least.
I’m working on two more short articles on the old days in Savannah and I will post those on your Facebook page when they are ready. I was delayed working on the photoshop graphic novel “The Kree Empire vs. Billy Barrett” due to having to get my website developed. But I’m starting work now on that story and it will ready in a few months.

Robert Cornett
Robert Cornett
1 year ago

Danny Lincoln – In addition to the trampoline, Danny’s father also would set up the train from their pool in Port Wentworth to run around their yard in the off season…and the soccer-style matches using riding mowers instead of wheelchairs. And Danny’s home-built hovercraft and home-built dune buggy?
And that time capsule at White Bluff? When the old school was torn down and replaced, the time capsule was preserved in its original location rather than dig it up and re-plant it later. I can’t believe that someone donated a portable color tv set to put in that thing.
And did you forget digging that massive hole in your back yard (I can’t remember the reason why) and that when there was still woods behind your house, we would play army and use real bbs so there was none of that “I shot you.” No you didn’t.” Good times in the old neighborhood. Nice stories, Lewis.

Lewis Forro
Lewis Forro
1 year ago
Reply to  Robert Cornett

Robert – I remember the train from Port Wentworth in Danny’s yard. I think Mr. Lincoln also set up that train at the White Bluff Elementary School Halloween Carnival sometimes. I don’t remember the soccer matches but I do remember Danny was also experimenting with one mechanical gadget or another. He had a special fetish for those large red 9 Volt batteries. His masterpiece was a model of the spaceship Fireball XL-5 made from a broom handle copied from the puppet cartoon TV show at the time.

I didn’t know the original White Bluff school had been torn down. I’m afraid none of us will be around when the time capsule is opened in 2066. I didn’t know a color TV was included in it; I was only interested in Danny’s Avengers Marvel comic book he donated to the time capsule instead of selling it to me.

David and I were always digging big holes in the back yard just for the heck of it. I think David may have some of his valuable antique bottles buried in one of them to this day.

Danny Lincoln
Danny Lincoln
1 year ago

Excellent write up of the days long ago, Really brought back some memories. I seem to remember begging you to write a story and include me in it. I hadn’t thought of that in years. You were a good writer even way back then. Do you remember when the 5 & Dime store burned down in the Cross Roads Shopping Center, and we went thru the burned out remnants. That was strange. I guess my favorite was always the Fantastic Four. Doesn’t the Comic Book version of how they started differ a bit from the movie. Not sure, just don’t remember the details.
Thanks for the memories.
Danny

Lewis Forro
Lewis Forro
1 year ago
Reply to  Danny Lincoln

Thanks for writing Danny. I did write at least one short story with you in it. The title was “Danny Lincoln Island Liver” where you were a Robinson Crusoe type of guy. You said you liked it. I don’t remember the dime store burning down. The movie version of the Fantastic Four was about the same as the comic book. I don’t see anymore Marvel or DC movies since they make to many changes from the comic books. If you like Fantastic Four comics do a search on Amazon.com and you will find many hardcover books with reprinted FF stories from the 1960s.